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: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 04, 2010, 09:33:10 PM
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: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:12:01 PM
Are we meant to mark large bouldery areas, if they are not in craters and if so do we just say 'other' interesting feature as I can't find a more suitable option.
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:12:42 PM
This is an interesting boulder strewn area. The area looks symmetrical - if you draw a line down the centre of the area it has almost mirror symmetry.

(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000019389.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000019389.jpg
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:14:16 PM
Interesting feature - is this the edge of a crater or a channel?

(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000010672.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000010672.jpg
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:15:23 PM
Found it!!
There's an elongate pit just left of centre I'm sure of it. Just looks too - well - elongated to me to be a standard crater.
(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000011218.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000011218.jpg
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:16:14 PM
A rille, possibly sinuous or a cliff on the edge of a large crater
(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000011289.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000011289.jpg
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:19:47 PM
Ridge, cliff, rille?
(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000014086.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000014086.jpg

Off to locate it on a detailed map. Back soon. Somewhere in the sea of Crises.
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:20:57 PM
Do I have a spacecraft? Top left. :-\
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4497564298_c4f2a33655_o.jpg)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4497564298_c4f2a33655_o.jpg
I did flag it as one.
This must just be a chance allignment of boulders - but it looks like a lander!!
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:24:46 PM
Just tidying and putting my boulder tracks (which I originally thought were tracks from a spacecraft) in the right thread...

(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000012081.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000012081.jpg
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:25:32 PM
Do boulders bounce? :)
A bouncing boulder!

(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000010824.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000010824.jpg (http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000010824.jpg)

If you look to the right of the bottom left-hand corner you can see a line of very small craters left by the bouncing boulder at the end of the tracks.
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 02:28:16 PM
EDIT - we now know this is in Hyginus Crater! (http://forum.moonzoo.org/index.php?topic=50.msg951#msg951)

Rather liked this view, looks like a couple of pork chops!

(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000011796.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000011796.jpg

Here's another shot of the same area from further away:

(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000012629.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v8/slices/000012629.jpg
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 10, 2010, 03:10:38 PM
I am wondering where we are drawing the line with regards to selecting very ancient craters. I see amongst the more obvious craters some very old geological features that are not well defined but are obviously very old. I must stress that I mean the realy old ones. Now, one has to be careful in making the choice against mounds but, with practice, the isn't a problem.

I did have an example but never saved it to favoutites, I'll look for another.
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 12, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
We have identified this as the track from Dark Boulder - one of the Apollo 17 locations.
Is this a huge boulder track (extreme left)?
(As well as the more obvious one running down the centre).
(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v10/slices/000383025.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v10/slices/000383025.jpg
Where Mare Serenitatis and Mare Tranquilitatis meet - close to Apollo 17 site.
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 13, 2010, 11:58:29 AM
EDIT - We now know it's INA! (http://forum.moonzoo.org/index.php?topic=116.0)

Would love to know what this is.
Difficult to know just where to put this one!
(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v10/slices/000387909.jpg)
http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v10/slices/000387909.jpg
On the foot hills of the Apennine Mountains.
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 14, 2010, 09:54:25 AM
Wow, lots of interesting images here. I hardly know where to get started.

A few questions:

Does anyone know if there is any way to use the My Moon Zoo feature to see the location and relation to Clementine data for the images that are being discussed (when it's not your image and so isn't in your My Moon Zoo already)? Context is soo important in image interpretation, so any little bit would be helpful.
At the moment there is no facility to do this but I'll put copy your question over to the Team Area (an area on the forum where the Team will look first) as other lunar scientists might find this relevant. The (initial at least) aim of Moon Zoo is to allow interested non-scientists to become involved in useful lunar research without any need to think about context or scale but as we have seen with Galaxy Zoo it is not long before both amateurs and professionals are asking deeper questions! It's early days yet and I'm sure features will be added as the project develops but I think it's useful for the Moon Zoo science team to know now how people are thinking of using the project.
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: Geoff May 16, 2010, 11:46:52 AM
One of the users has asked if it is possible to get the Longitude/Latitude details from the image reference number alone, i.e. if they don't have the image in their My Moon Zoo map?

This would be handy I think.
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules May 23, 2010, 11:28:53 AM
We are having some difficulty spotting crater chains and would appreciate a little advice - and more picture examples if possible.
Thanks! :)

So explain this one!
A good 500 miles from the Apollo sites, but who else might be using square-pad tracked vehicles?

(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v10/slices/000372537.jpg)

000372537
Longitude: 62.2803
Latitude: 12.8347

Could this be a crater chain?

This is the tutorial pic of a crater chain.
There are some similarities.
(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/example_images/crater_chain_1.jpg)

I'll put this in the Team Area and hopefully one of the team will enlighten us!
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules June 11, 2010, 08:05:37 PM
This is one beaut of a ridge/dome/mound and the first one I've been certain of!
(I wonder which galactic hero is buried under it? ;) )

(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v10/slices/000055109.jpg)

000055109
Longitude: 30.7865
Latitude: 20.0556
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules June 15, 2010, 10:48:46 AM
Bench crater?


I've seen a few sort of like this and wasn't sure what to call them.  This one's the most exteme example of the look I'm talking about, so if anyone can tell me what this is (or if it's just "crater"), I'd appreciate it.  By the way, I see a face at a 45 degree angle.  With an eye patch.  I hereby name this crater "Whitebeard The Pirate".

(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v10/slices/000349697.jpg)

ID: AMZ10033rq
Latitude: -3.20881°
Longitude: 336.639°
Sun Angle: -88.67°
Scale: 0.49 meters / pixel
: Re: QUESTIONS AND UNUSUAL FINDS
: jules June 18, 2010, 01:17:44 PM
(http://moonzoo.s3.amazonaws.com/v10/slices/000179071.jpg)

AMZ40024ti (http://www.moonzoo.org/examine/AMZ40024ti)

I don't know what it is so I thought this was as good a thread as any to post it in.  :-\

Intriguing. This is the same spot from M106690695LE (http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc/view_lroc/LRO-L-LROC-2-EDR-V1.0/M106690695LE) under different lighting. I think it's in the bottom of a crater.