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IreneAnt

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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #150 on: June 15, 2010, 09:11:45 pm »

I've seen a few sort of like this and wasn't sure what to call them.  This one's the most exteme example of the look I'm talking about, so if anyone can tell me what this is (or if it's just "crater"), I'd appreciate it.  By the way, I see a face at a 45 degree angle.  With an eye patch.  I hereby name this crater "Whitebeard The Pirate".



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Hi DJ_59,

I mentioned this somewhere else, but I forgot where.... So, I will have to write it out again ;)  And, I'll add some reference links for good measure.

These types of craters are believed to form when there is a weaker layer overlying a stronger layer (like regolith over a mare layer). For small craters, the strength of the target material is important, so the 2 layers effectively produce 2 craters. A larger crater forms in the weaker regolith, and a smaller crater, nested inside the bigger one, forms in the stronger mare, giving you something that's called a concentric crater.

The original papers that did experiments on this are available by subscription only, so here's a link to a publicly available paper that did the same thing in computer simulations. Senft & Stewart, JGR 2007. Scroll down to page 14 for pictures of the various types of craters and how they relate to the thickness of the overlying regolith layer.

Now, the crater here is also asymmetrical. That suggests that it was an oblique impact, with the impactor coming from the left.

I  hope this helps.

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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #151 on: June 15, 2010, 10:35:36 pm »


Yes it does.  Very much.  Thanks, Irene!

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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #152 on: June 15, 2010, 11:33:13 pm »
Irene, your explanation really helps- wonderful :)

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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #153 on: June 16, 2010, 11:32:10 pm »
Happy to help  :)

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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #154 on: June 18, 2010, 11:24:29 am »
The crater at left centre looks interesting - not sure if this is a "bench" crater or something else:


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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #155 on: June 19, 2010, 12:14:27 am »


No question here, just... cool looking.




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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #156 on: June 19, 2010, 12:51:35 am »


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The design in this crater looks different than the the concentric circle impacts and wondered what you all thought. 
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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #157 on: June 19, 2010, 05:55:37 am »
The crater at left centre looks interesting - not sure if this is a "bench" crater or something else:


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This one makes me think that you had am impact into a not-completely-solidified melt sheet. Here's a link to a paper that shows what happens when you impact a viscous target, as opposed to a solid target (specifically, go to page 1657 and look at Figure 5b). If you look around the rim of the big impact crater in the original LROC strip, you can see some more examples of these kinds of craters.

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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #158 on: June 19, 2010, 08:54:40 am »
Thanks again Irene - that makes sense.

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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #159 on: June 19, 2010, 10:27:07 am »
An interesting crater at the top right. At first I thought it had a central mound but the lighting is wrong so looks more like another crater inside the large one.


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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #160 on: June 19, 2010, 04:30:12 pm »

A crater with its own pool.  Nice. 

I like the little white path leading toward it, too.  That's a Nice image.  You don't see the crater-within-a-crater so perfectly centered very often.  Or... ever.



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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #161 on: June 19, 2010, 04:52:53 pm »
I guess the white boulder to the left crash-landed on the rim, disintegrating as it rolled and tumbled down the hill.

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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #162 on: June 19, 2010, 08:08:17 pm »


Interesting area. There seem to be 3 elongated pit craters in this image, one large, smaller one at the top, and one at the lower right that might also be associated with a crater chain- there's a line of craters there, anyway.... (I'm always lookin' ;))

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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #163 on: June 20, 2010, 04:23:06 am »

This is just strange lookin'.  Looks more like a porthole on a long sunken ship than a crater.  I really wish we had more control over images found in Boulder Wars.  We don't really have much hope of a better look.



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Re: Crater Questions
« Reply #164 on: June 20, 2010, 04:10:12 pm »
Is this a Boulder Wars image? If so, how did you save the image and get info..???. I can't figure out how to do that.  All I do now is a screen shot :'(
I agree that it would be great to have more control over the BW images.



This is just strange lookin'.  Looks more like a porthole on a long sunken ship than a crater.  I really wish we had more control over images found in Boulder Wars.  We don't really have much hope of a better look.



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