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NASA NOT SOUND official trailer
« on: December 15, 2014, 12:09:36 am »


www.youtube.com/embed/6Z6Y7V_e1k0


FILMINCO PRODUCTIONS in association with ERIK HUDSON FILMS presents NASA NOT SOUND.

A feature documentary by Jet Wintzer and Erik Hudson. Coming in April 2015.

Between 1969 and 1972, the NASA Apollo missions allegedly traveled 239,000 miles landing men on the moon six times. But a thriving culture of conspiracy alleging the landings were faked has emerged predominantly attacking the photographic evidence, the general technology involved, and stressing the fact that, since 1972, no human has been more than 400 miles from earth.

Yet the doubters are a fringe minority. Their claims cannot be tested without going back to the moon where light and shadows remain an alien environment compared to Earth. For every attack on the official story, there has always been a seemingly scientific retort. And there's been no verifiable smoking gun. This film goes in search of one.

NASA NOT SOUND is the first film to make a significant analysis of the official audio broadcasts from the Apollo missions by ignoring the visual and other controversial elements to lay its focus squarely upon one thing: SOUND.

On the moon, there is no atmosphere capable of propagating sound waves audible to the human ear. Nothing the astronauts did on the moon should be heard in the official broadcasts other than radio communications from inside their air tight space suits. All mechanical vibrations made by the astronauts outside of their suits should not be audible, yet this film has unearthed a plethora of uncanny sounds.

NASA.gov and the Apollo astronauts have acknowledged some of these sounds while offering no more than a wild speculative guess as to how such sounds were recorded. The astronauts do not recall hearing them on the moon and have said they thought such sound to be impossible. This film holds NASA to the standard of scientific method by interviewing acoustic professionals respected in their specialized fields.

This film also uses clips of modern astronauts who may have unwittingly convicted the Apollo missions in their candid statements to the media that no sound can be heard in the eerily silent vacuum of space even if banging metal objects with hammers.

NASA NOT SOUND will have its world premier in April 2015.

Written, researched and presented by award winning filmmaker Jet Wintzer (Best Sci Fi Feature 2012 Philadelphia Independent Film Festival; Best Feature 2012 FLICKERS RI Int. Horror Film Festival: Best Feature 2012 US Super 8 Film & DV Fest)

Cinematography by award winning filmmaker Erik Hudson.

Original Score by Schizo Fun Addict.

Clips of NASA astronauts Piers Sellers and Mike Massimino are used under the Fair Use Doctrine. Please note that their appearance in no way implies that the astronauts endorse the allegations made in the film. Piers Sellers' footage was originally broadcast by BBC FOUR. Mike Massimino's footage was originally broadcast on Star Talk Radio. Fair Use of these clips also in no way suggests BBC FOUR or Star Talk Radio endorses the allegations of this film.

All other clips were shot by the filmmakers or are in the public domain.

The trailer was edited by Jet Wintzer. The music in the trailer was written and recorded by Jet Wintzer except for the BBC FOUR clip of Piers Sellers.

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 01:15:11 pm »
Thanks for the heads up Jet. I'm not convinced you have found your smoking gun yet though! ;) The Apollo12 crew discussed the hammering sounds while they were working at Sharp crater. We covered some of this in an earlier blog: Sounds on the Moon. It's interesting stuff.

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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2014, 07:29:50 pm »
It would be interesting to know if any useful spectral analysis can be applied to the audio channel data.  There were the geophones of course and I think those did get some recent reanalysis.  But it would be nice to know if other lunar quakes or meteor impacts could be recorded through the audio channel.  It seems hard to filter out all the noise (suit noise, body "noises", particle noise when you step on it such as when people step on some particle types like sand, radiation in the electronics) though through the entire link.

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2014, 02:43:56 am »
Thanks for the heads up Jet. I'm not convinced you have found your smoking gun yet though! ;) The Apollo12 crew discussed the hammering sounds while they were working at Sharp crater. We covered some of this in an earlier blog: Sounds on the Moon. It's interesting stuff.

It was this forum that tipped me off to the issue originally. That narrative will be part of the film, so credit will be given. I'm familiar with the ALSJ dialogue. Our film is thorough. Nothing more than a guess has been offered by the astronauts or NASA. The science is not that difficult to discern. I don't want to give more info than what is in the trailer. But we are confident our film will raise interesting dialogue. I am grateful to this forum for raising the issue. Nice work.

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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2014, 05:59:32 pm »
I don't see it as an "issue" - just an interesting phenomenon. Looking forward to seeing the full length film. :)

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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2014, 09:16:55 pm »
I finally got a response on the method to request Apollo video.  I was told to try archive.org.

Very interesting archive.  They digitized ALL the audio!  They include the transciptions too!  Very neat.  Don't know any particulars on the sampling characteristics (analog to digital).
https://archive.org/details/nasaaudiocollection
https://archive.org/details/apolloaudiocollection
https://archive.org/details/Apollo11Audio
https://archive.org/details/Apollo12Audio
https://archive.org/details/Apollo14
https://archive.org/details/Apollo15
https://archive.org/details/Apollo16
https://archive.org/details/Apollo17

Gigantic Wave files and smaller MP3 files!

They also have some video there, but not that much.

I was also told that for a member of the public (not limited to a member of the "media"), the proper procedure to get digital video such as those from Apollo is to go through the JSC Newsroom via the email jsccommu@mail.nasa.gov .  I have not tried this myself.

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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2014, 10:37:48 pm »
Nice work JF - what a great resource.

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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2014, 03:01:48 am »
I finally got a response on the method to request Apollo video.  I was told to try archive.org.

Very interesting archive.  They digitized ALL the audio!  They include the transciptions too!  Very neat.  Don't know any particulars on the sampling characteristics (analog to digital).
https://archive.org/details/nasaaudiocollection
https://archive.org/details/apolloaudiocollection
https://archive.org/details/Apollo11Audio
https://archive.org/details/Apollo12Audio
https://archive.org/details/Apollo14
https://archive.org/details/Apollo15
https://archive.org/details/Apollo16
https://archive.org/details/Apollo17

Gigantic Wave files and smaller MP3 files!

They also have some video there, but not that much.

I was also told that for a member of the public (not limited to a member of the "media"), the proper procedure to get digital video such as those from Apollo is to go through the JSC Newsroom via the email jsccommu@mail.nasa.gov .  I have not tried this myself.

Yes, great work JF. much appreciated

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2014, 03:04:41 am »
I don't see it as an "issue" - just an interesting phenomenon. Looking forward to seeing the full length film. :)

I will make sure this forum has first access free. It will have to be password protected until film festival run is over, or many fests won't screen it. Still in production.

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2014, 01:25:57 pm »


www.youtube.com/embed/6Z6Y7V_e1k0


FILMINCO PRODUCTIONS in association with ERIK HUDSON FILMS presents NASA NOT SOUND.

A feature documentary by Jet Wintzer and Erik Hudson. Coming in April 2015.

We've pulled that trailer to add more content. You can download new trailer in various formats at the Vimeo link
https://vimeo.com/114090787

and here is the Youtube link
NASA NOT SOUND - Official Trailer (moon hoax smoking gun edit)
Coming April 2015 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW0NJsMu8kg

if anyone can explain how the intro clip (featured again later in trailer) isn't a smoking gun, I'm all ears. discuss

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2014, 12:14:47 pm »
if anyone can explain how the intro clip (featured again later in trailer) isn't a smoking gun, I'm all ears. discuss

That's an interesting one!

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2014, 12:34:35 pm »
if anyone can explain how the intro clip (featured again later in trailer) isn't a smoking gun, I'm all ears. discuss

That's an interesting one!

We didn't feature it in the original trailer, but we later thought it best to lead with it and get the conversation started. Also, I think it just looks really cool.

Our film respects the astronauts. These guys are amazing people who were taking orders in a chain of command like soldiers.
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2014, 09:24:17 pm »

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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2014, 12:53:27 am »
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29508725
Maybe this is applicable.


Not applicable actually. We do cover bone conduction in the film, and it is not possible to throw sounds into a boom mic this way. Bone conduction happens, for example, when you put your head on a vibrating object and the sound doesnt need air to vibrate, as stated in the article:

"A lot of sound information in the real world is from vibration, going straight to the cochlea, or inner ear, which processes sound, as opposed to air conduction through our ears,"

The microphones in the headsets are noise canceling boom mics...they only pick up sound through the oxygen atmosphere of the suit. They are not "contact microphones". We use a contact mic in the film to show how they amplify sounds from objects when they are pressed against surface of object, but if you talk into them directly, they don't pick that up like a boom mic. 

So the hammering could not be recorded via bone conduction. And, of course, with regard to the first clip in the new trailer, such analysis is irrelevant since Irwin throws the object away toward the ship and it clanks against ship. He isn't holding the object or touching the ship. A pure sound event is recorded at that moment. In the vacuum of space, that would be impossible.

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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2014, 05:20:04 pm »
I guess I missed the meaning of the astronaut tossing something at the LM.  When I saw it, it didn't make sense that he would toss anything, especially at the LM.  Then, looking at the transcript and other video showed as they were assembling things, they were removing covers and tossing them far away to not clutter up the local environment.  But the astronaut must have been a bad aim to hit the LM! 

Anyway, its hard to figure out why the "hit" of the LM would cause a sound on the voice loop.  One possibility is that somehow there is a open mike on the voice loop in the LM.  Not sure this is possible or how to deduce this. How many headsets were in the LM and could they have been "on"?  The other unconfirmable possibility is that it is some coincident sound (a cough or breath).  Amazing timing if so.